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How would you rate Boast Busters?

5 stars!  Awesome!
12 (27.9%)
4 stars!  Good episode!
13 (30.2%)
3 stars... alright
13 (30.2%)
2 stars, not that good
3 (7%)
1 star, terrible
2 (4.7%)

Total Members Voted: 43

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September 15, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
Reply #50
Poor choice of words on my part.  My point still stands - she should be smart enough to understand the difference.

November 21, 2011, 11:37:23 AM
Reply #51
Rewatched this episode and my love for it has increased substantially into one of my favorites.  First and foremost, it has a great moral.  A message that not only do most shows not teach but most shows do not follow - avoid extremes and think in an area of middleground.  I also view this as a duo-episode as the majority of the story deals with the interaction between Twi and Spike.  Spike clearly has a deep level of respect for Twi and it pains him to not only see Twi back down from a fight but to see her reframe from sticking up for him.  The scene of him walking at night clearly haven given up on her was kinda heartbreaking.  Trixie serves as a good antagonist, carefully constructed to be an irredeamable version of Rainbow Dash: all bark no bite plus no modesty or loyalty.  Well-produced in every aspect, a ten out of 10.  In fact the only thing I don't like about this episode is something that isn't even in the episode - how annoying hardcore Trixie fans can get.

I wish there was the choice to recast my vote in the poll.

November 21, 2011, 12:40:30 PM
Reply #52
When I watched the first season it was a bit of a blur, I sank my teeth into it pretty quickly and went through it in less than a week, but Boast Busters was a memorable episode with a good cast of characters for the story. I wouldn't say it was one of my favourites but its a brilliant episode, especially for the interaction that you noted goes on between Spike and Twilight. The one thing I will add was that while Twilight didn't stick up for him, she also didn't stick up for the rest of her friends or her neighbours in Ponyville.  It was nice to see how forgiving they were of her, although more through their complete amazement at her magical prowess that really stole the show. 

In retrospect, I do hope that they will use Trixie again in the future, I thought she was a very good character for a one-shot, and that there was more potential for her to cause some mischief. 


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November 21, 2011, 01:34:03 PM
Reply #53
I'm in the same boat at Icarus when it comes to my experience of watching Season 1 - a lot of it blurred into eachother and there were only a few episodes that noticeably stood out, but I can't really hold the episodes' quality accountable for that, it's inevitable when watching so much in such a short space of time...! Funnily enough Boast Busters was one of the first episodes to actually stand out to me, and I think I can thank Trixie for that; I loved her character from the moment she appeared, and it's thanks to her that the episode remains notable to me. Aside from her I'll be honest that it's not one of my favourite episodes, though - I'm not the biggest fan of Snips and Snails and I was pretty indifferent to their role in the episode, and I wasn't so struck on the overall story... I didn't have any particular problems with it, it just didn't grab my attention in the same way that some other episodes did.

That said, the Ursa "Major" was cool (and the actual Ursa Major was a pretty neat, unexpected twist!), and as Lesson Zero and Icarus both noted, the interactions between Spike and Twilight were notable for casting a fairly unique light on their relationship... I've always said that their friendship lies at the emotional heart of the show, and this was really the first episode since the pilot to feature their close bond so prominently. It spoke volumes about Spike's admiration and respect for Twilight to see him so enamoured with her, and I find any of his scenes where he states, with total conviction, his faith in Twilight and her magical abilities to be very sweet.

Maybe this is why I enjoyed Owl's Well That Ends Well so much, since throughout the course of the first season I never really felt that Twilight paid Spike enough attention to acknowledge his loyalty to her (though I admit that's just a personal impression, and not something really backed up by the show itself), so having her finally outright call him a "friend" and reinstate how important he is to her, was pretty important for my appreciation of their relationship, and ultimately very satisfying to me.

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November 22, 2011, 06:27:14 PM
Reply #54
Put me in the camp that wasn't sure of this at first, but after rewatches have come to really like it.

Especially agree with Zero on the moral, Boast Busters has one of my favorite morals of the series and I love the way it's pulled off. I had not noticed Spike in this episode much either, but I really want to rewatch it again now and see for myself, being a Spike fan.


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November 22, 2011, 08:37:10 PM
Reply #55
The Great and Powerful Trixie! I laughed at her saying her own name several times. Owned by the best at the end. 8)

December 17, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
Reply #56
Bumping this topic because of this interesting analysis that made me view this episode in a new way:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TTWv2PXTHc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TTWv2PXTHc</a>

I will say this, looking back, I STILL don't see why Trixie got as much attention as she did...  And also, that Chris Savino isn't THAT bad of a writer.  I didn't think he was worse than Dave Polsky or Merriweather Williams, and they both made decent comebacks in season 3, so I don't see why he SHOULDN'T be given a second chance.

December 17, 2012, 05:26:15 PM
Reply #57
Fantastic episode. I loved the humor, and the lesson was great, but I'm with Pirate Pony, why did Trixie get all the attention. It's not a bad thing. Hell, I'd call it a great thing, because we got magic duel, and that may be my favorite episode.
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December 17, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
Reply #58
Because Magic Duel happened I've become more fond of this episode (Because I love continuity). In fact if I were to start over my comparisons I did between Seasons 1 and 2, this might be the one change where I choose this over Cutie Pox because Boast Busters actually becomes relevant to something later on. An episode I really, really enjoyed too.

December 18, 2012, 03:39:00 AM
Reply #59
The episode that spawned 100 of Trixie return fics.

December 19, 2012, 10:43:06 AM
Reply #60
That was my least favorite episode since I hated Trixie and anyone that brags they're better than you attitude.

September 23, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
Reply #61
Equestria Daily's countdown to season 4 continues with Boast Busters.

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/09/666-days-of-pony-boast-busters.html

As you can imagine, Sethiso goes crazy here.

Honestly, the first time I saw it, I didn't think it made sense; why would Twilight be ashamed of using her magic?  It's CLEAR that what her friends didn't like about Trixie was her attitude, not the fact that she uses magic!  But it's like every time I look back on it, I find new things not to like about it, such as the mane 6's attitude toward's Trixie's bragging; i.e. they should have just ignored her instead of actively challenging her.  This one guy, Strebiskunk I think it was, had a good analogy/metaphor for this kind of behavior: imagine if Trixie was either a hater and/or a big time Adventure Time fan who didn't much care for MLP:FiM.  She decides to go onto an MLP forum and give a highly detailed post about how much better Adventure Time is over MLP:FiM.  Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Rarity, and Spike are all forum-goers who actively challenge Trixie on this, but for every good point they make about MLP:FiM, Trixie has JUST the counter-argument for.  Spike knows fellow forum-member Twilight is the BEST when it comes to analytical stuff like this, and she has just the know-how to put Trixie in her place.  But Twilight doesn't see the point, as Trixie CLEARLY just wants the attention, and really, if she DOES prefer Adventure Time over MLP:FiM, why should that even be an issue?  Like, why do you care so much that you can't just ignore her and move on with your lives?

I remember getting into arguments about whether or not Trixie was truly a jerk or if it was all part of her act...  Well, the way the episode is written, it certainly FEELS like the writer (Chris Savino) wanted us to think she was just a plain-old jerk, and that AJ, RD, and Rarity were right within their minds to try and call-out Trixie for her bragging, even though he COULD just all be part of an act...  Not to mention, since they were actively heckling her throughout her show, some have argued that Trixie was well within her mind to try and shut them up, and used this Louis CK bit as an example of what they're getting at:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRNCk3YwqE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRNCk3YwqE</a>

...Although apparently the woman in that video was just an actress, but whatever.  Point is, the way this story was told, it felt awkward, and the message didn't match up with the actions and reasoning of the characters.  Even Trixie's escape felt weird, trying to save face after being showed up like that, like seriously, what the Hell?

I also NEVER understood the appeal of Trixie.  Like, at all.  It perplexed me for, like, EVER, as to what made this character so appealing that she got all this fanart, fan fiction and whatnot dedicated to her.  I mean, she's cute and has a nice mane and tail, but so do most ponies.  She has a nice hammy way she acts, though honestly I think it's hit or miss with me, and I honestly did NOT like her voice at first.  It wasn't until Magic Duel that I started to get on boat the Trixie train, but her appeal still alludes me...

Also, I hated Snips and Snails.  I don't hate them as much now, but I don't much care for them regardless.

September 28, 2013, 02:04:39 PM
Reply #62
Since I've seen this episode before, I'm just gonna give my thoughts on it. I thought it was a pretty good episode, imo. And I'm probably one of a few people that likes Trixie (I hate Snips & Snails more, though).

September 28, 2013, 02:07:48 PM
Reply #63
And I'm probably one of a few people that likes Trixie (I hate Snips & Snails more, though).

There's no few about it, Trixie is yet another pony that the seeming majority of the fandom has a hard-on for.
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September 28, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
Reply #64
I also NEVER understood the appeal of Trixie.
Henning Makholm summed it up perfectly in another thread.
I think it also has something to do with the fact that Trixie is not just a jerk; she's a fraud. At least in "Boast Busters" it's somewhat implied that her jerkiness originates in a fear of being found out.

And many of us knows that feeling -- the conviction that we're really just bluffing our way through life and any moment someone is going to discover that we're not half as competent as we might look like from the outside. It's known as impostor syndrome. That makes Trixie a possible identification figure.

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In contrast, Tiara and Gilda are just portrayed as plain old mean. It's more difficult to identify with either of them.

September 28, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
Reply #65
And I'm probably one of a few people that likes Trixie
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September 28, 2013, 09:42:17 PM
Reply #66
Henning Makholm summed it up perfectly in another thread.
Yeah, no, sorry, but I feel like everyone has a different reason for liking Trixie, there is no broad generalization here.  It's kind of like explaining the appeal of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.  You can explain why YOU like it, but if you ask enough people, you'll get more then a few different answers.

September 28, 2013, 09:57:53 PM
Reply #67
Yeah, no, sorry, but I feel like everyone has a different reason for liking Trixie, there is no broad generalization here.  It's kind of like explaining the appeal of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.  You can explain why YOU like it, but if you ask enough people, you'll get more then a few different answers.
It explains the fanatics.

October 20, 2013, 10:30:39 AM
Reply #68
I honestly don't even like Trixie's design that much.

I find her design a bit generic compared to other unicorns.
And it looks so boring imo.

In fact, not even her voice is that great.

Really. It sounds like Pinkie Pie's voice mixed with Rainbow Dash's but pitched down lower, ESPECIALLY in Boast Busters.

And I'm probably one of a few people that likes Trixie (I hate Snips & Snails more, though).


Actually, it's more like I'm probably one of the few people that HATES Trixie.
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October 20, 2013, 12:23:10 PM
Reply #69
Boast Busters is the reason Trixie is a hated character of mine. She's too smart to be traveling around like that,  :'(
She also was sorta a jerk to them, well, she was a jerk to them, and her character design was bad, as an opinion.


But the episode was good with text and story line.  So I say it's a 2.
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October 20, 2013, 01:15:38 PM
Reply #70
I always thought Trixie's character design was boring & cliche.